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LoginDating advice from non-"PUA"-douchebags? May 17, PM Subscribe Seeking recommendations on dating advice for men, unfortunately that entire genre seems to be dominated by "Pick Up Artists" and other assorted misogynist douchebags. Is there any advice to be found out there which comes from a viewpoint which respects women and men? Bonus points if it makes an inspirational case for why one should bother in the first place. A bit of background if it helps: hetero male, late 20s, never been in a significant romantic relationship. Had one girlfriend a few years ago, only lasted a month. Dated online sporadically over the last 5 years, maybe a dozen dates, but never found a similar spark. I am particularly looking for solid advice because I'm concerned — my 30s are right around the corner and although I feel like an adult in most areas of my life I have a well paying job, I pay my bills, I feel confident in most social situations , I feel utterly inexperienced and unprepared in this part of my life. I was raised fundamentalist Christian from the age of 12 until I left the church at 21, and I feel like the years when I should have been learning by failing all I learned was how to avoid the opposite sex. I've managed over the years to let go of a lot of the religious baggage around sex and I feel ready to try to engage with this problem head on.
We all know that narcissistic and sociopathic individuals use specific manipulation tactics to unsettle their victims. But did you know that some of the techniques they use overlap with that of pick-up artists? Not all pick-up artists are narcissists, but many narcissists are natural pick-up artists. For narcissistic manipulators, this type of pick-up artistry comes organically as a result of learning how to con others from an early age: they dont need to pore over books like The Art of Seduction or The Game for hours in order to master the art of mimicking, love-bombing, and devaluing others. Many sociopathic predators have been using manipulation their whole lives to get ahead and thus have are far more sophisticated tactics in their arsenal of psychological terrorism. As a result, their scripts are more convincing, especially if they are clever wolves in sheeps clothing. Yet some predators do use similar techniques as pick-up artists as part of their nefarious toolbox.
Then he uses pickup techniques like negs and demonstrations of high value to try and make them interested in him. I think what he teaches is more about putting on a performance for women instead of actually talking to them like a real human being. Many PUAs eventually end up addicted to the game of pick up but unsatisfied in their relationships with women, never having something deep and meaningful. He says pickup turns guys into compensatory narcissists who attract messed up and even sociopathic women as they also like to play games etc. I prefer to get to the point asap. I even met my second last girlfriend on the metro.
Three quick tips for any guy on the path of PUA or betterment in the dating game. Beginner tip — Start approaching. I know there are plenty of people reading this who are wondering where and how to start. Put aside a couple of hours, go out, and approach. Commit to an approach before the girl is front of you.
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6/28/2024
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